Andrew akpatt
Hi folks.
Just thought I'd put this in the forum for comment. I bought a Dapol track cleaner the other day. I bought it for the vacuum cleaner more than anything else and it works really well for that as I have inaccessible areas that the hand held vac cleaner wont reach. I thought Id try the polishing pads just to see how they work, absolutely rubbish. When pads touch the track the motor runs for about 10 seconds and it stops. It seems to me that the motor is too weak, why Dapol used a 9 volt motor instead of 12 to 15 volts I cant understand.  I use DCC and have set the max voltage at 8.5 volts just to be sure it dosnt burn out. Its great for vacuuming but completely under designed for the purpose its sold for.
Fortunatly I use a lead weighted piece of hardboard rough side down fitted to a box wagon to remove the crusty stuff followed by the Dapol vac cleaner followed by a modified Sharge Track cleaner  pulled by a 12 wheel drive class 50. The set up does a realy good job.
I dont think there is one machine that does the whole job certainly not the Dapol unit. You need to have a few gadgets consisted together to do a really thorough track cleaning job.
Andrew. 
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Andywp
Hi Andrew,
Yeah, exactly the same problem with the Dapol cleaner. The pad contact tends also to lift the weight of the vehicle, which requires a bit of extra weight (such as wheel balancing weights that you get from tyre companies, to get the opick up back. Just as you said, a consist works well. I presently use a CML track cleaner with cleaning fluid, pushed by the loco, with the Dapol behind the loco just used as a vacuum cleaner, which it does moderately well until it jams up with a loose piece of ballast - but that's easily sorted. The type of fluid is significant too, I am still experimenting with that. 

Andy
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Mister Rusty
Please advise us if you come across the solution [un-intentional pun].
I hope that the below is useful. It is my observations on the same issue.
On my bench, I currently have petrol, meths, IPA, both Deoxit cleaners, cellulose thinners, aerosol electrical contact cleaner.
Have thought of blending, but don't want to go bang.
IPA [iso-propyl alcohol] is good, but evaporates off the pads too quickly, it does not affect plastic as some fear.
Petrol, not bad, but stinks the place out.
Meths, slight oily residue, enhances wheel-slip
Cellulose thinners, best in my view, but check plastics nearby, particularly carrying vehicles, and another that smells [deliberate as a safety measure, as also petrol and meths]
Aerosol, too profligate for track cleaning, good for spot-cleaning, such as points
Deoxit red and gold - too expensive in enough bulk to even try.

There are no such things as problems, merely un-found solutions [punishing, what?]
Pete
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Mister Rusty
Safety is paramount.
I sometimes even screw the tops on if l am shrinking shrinkwrap with a lighter.
Haven't gone bang [yet], but all of you, please keep hoping.
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Any cleaner needs to be volatile. IPA is best but needs a drip-action as with the CMX cleaner. Meths is actually a form of IPA with a dye etc added (only in some countries as for example its clear in AU but not UK) - it should have no other additives / no additional oiliness really.

problem with cellulose thinners is flash point. Very volatile around arcing electrickery

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Andrew akpatt
Re the original post.
I have tried the Dapol on DC and DCC but the motor cannot overcome the friction when using polishing pads. I emailed Dapol twice but no response,  starting to think I wont buy Dapol again if they cant be bothered to reply.
As far as fluid is concerned I use IPA in the Sharge but not in the Dapol I dont know what sort of plastic they use but even meths started to eat into the plastic body. If you want a half decent vac cleaner its ok but dont bother with trying to do anything else with it.
Andrew
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Mister Rusty
Dapol use recycled plastics that are not as resistant to the vagaries of modelling's demands.
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Iain Morrison wimorrison
Lux make a superb cleaner that is very, very good

https://www.lux-modellbau.de/
Iain Morrison
Modelling h0e using Z21 with iTrain automation and Railcom
There are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know
http://www.wimorrison.co.uk
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Pad-Ply-Pen
Would Ariel work just as well 
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Mister Rusty
Lux flakes are still available on e-bay, nice picture on the box.
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Glad to see someone else is old enough to remember Lux😀
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Ron Solly Sol
I have found on USA & Oz forums that using Automatic transmission fluid  ATF   is good once the track is cleaned initially but maybe no good for locos with traction tyres just a few drops n a couple of spots & let the locos sprrad it.. One of my mates here in South Oz has switched from Wahl clipper oil ( another favorite for many years with USA modellers  & which I use) to  ATF and is swearing by it.
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Mister Rusty
It should not affect neoprene traction tyres [tires], as they are usually made of the same material as the 'O' rings within an automatic transmission.
i do not intend to find out though, 12":1' trains only oil the flanges, not the traction surface.
I prefer my track to be dry thus giving maximum traction for my models, in addition to maximizing electrical flow to the motors.
Ok. my track oxidizes and needs cleaning more. If it's a pain cleaning the track because it's a big layout, then reduce the running length. But don't complain about electrical or traction issues. 😉
Just my view.
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Andrew akpatt
Even I remember lux flakes from England but not sure how you'd stuff em in to a Dapol Cleaner😂 Im looking at replacing the poky little 9 volt motor with a 5 pole skew wound from a hornby EMU and adapting it to fit. If its dooable it'll not only vacuum the track but suck up the scenery. 
Everthing can be modified!!!..
Andrew.
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Mister Rusty
Even I remember lux flakes from England but not sure how you'd stuff em in to a Dapol Cleaner😂 

Use the vacuum! 

Im looking at replacing the poky little 9 volt motor with a 5 pole skew wound from a hornby EMU and adapting it to fit. If its dooable it'll not only vacuum the track but suck up the scenery. 
Everthing can be modified!!!..
Andrew.

😉 If it ay bost, doe mend it, if it is bost, don't  mend it, modify it ðŸ˜ˆ
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