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Ruffnut Thorston

Jun 06, 2018

I have received a question on why so many Brake Vans....;)
Well, there are a few gradients around Ffrwd....
But I intend to run a barke van special as well! ;)

There is also quite a large collection of Iron Ore Hoppers....for the Ironworks supply.

Bogie Bolsters for steel girders, outwards....

Mineral wagons for coal inwards...

Unlike the neaby Shotton Steel Works, these are the smaller 4-wheelers rather than John Summers' Unfitted (No Vac. Brakes) Bogie Hoppers that were used for the Birkenhead docks to Shotton trains (latterly 9f hauled) a Merseyside "Consett" style working.

Some at least of these bogie hoppers later passed to ICI....who had similar hoppers, but Vac Brake fitted...soon to be made RTR for Hattons. (I cannot see me bring tempted though!)


ICI and Summers Hoppers...


http://paul3715.tripod.com/hopper.htm


http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/jsummersorehopper


Research is fun! :)

Best wishes,

Ruff...
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Ruffnut Thorston
The "British Railways" Class 2721 loco has now been passed on.

It has been replaced by another, later "Main Range" 2721, pre the move to the Railroad range. It has the power class letter inside the yellow route availabilty (RA on the LNER) "spot"....which is missing from the Railroad models...

So, there are now two 2721 Pannier Tank loocos on the Ffrwd Locks roster....

One has the "half cab"...and is still in G W R livery, but a bit grubby as it hasn't been painted since 1948!

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The other has had a "full cab" added, using the back plate from a Hornby "Jinty" (Converted to a half cab!), and a new roof, etc...

This one is in the "BRITISH RAILWAYS" in GWR lettering style....from about 1948-1949....so this one is also a bit grubby.

Croes Newyedd, like many other sheds, did not clean Pannier Tanks very often it seems.... ;)

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Best wishes,

Ruff...
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Jaz Avalley JazAvalley
Lovely to see a familiar layout 🙂 Nice to see you here. Love the Avatar too 😃

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AHJAY
Ditto. Welcome.
It is nice to see such a long development put together so well in a logical sequence like that.
Ahjay
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Briperran
A really nice layout thread i have been watching as you have been posting it. Thanks for taking the time to do it


Brian
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Ruffnut Thorston
Hi all.

Thanks for the comments.

Due to circumstances, I don't currently have much modelling time, real life pressures.

But once things have worked out, a new version of Ffrwd Locks is planned.

Despite an early decision to avoid DCC, the sound option has inspired us to go DCC.

We are also thinking along the lines of going for Kadee couplings.

To this end, some models are being replaced by newer versions, already fitted with NEM pockets and DCC sockets.
Other models are being modified.
Where possible, we aim to fit NEM pockets, so that the coupling option is wider than just Kadees...just in case...
Fitting Kadee draft gear boxes can be just as much work as fitting a NEM pocket, but the options created a far wider!

Best wishes, Ruff.
Best wishes,

Ruff...
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Bunkerbarge
Hi Ruff, I started off not knowing what direction I was going in and ended up buying a few second hand locomotives that I later learned were simply not going to produce good, reliable DCC locomotives.  Consequently I had to go through a reshuffle to get started in the DCC sound direction.  I am now very glad I did.  The wiring and electrical installation seems to me to be a lot simpler than trying to design and install isolation zones and the added realism of the sounds always generates an atmosphere that adds to the layout.

I am sure the more you get into DCC the more you will grow to appreciate its benefits.
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Ruffnut Thorston
Thanks.

One thing that we have soon found outbid that a steam loco TTS decoder is not usually able to get the wheel rotation and chuff rate synchronised...but for the price, better than nothing. Especially as we try very hard to find decoders at low prices!

With a Ringfield Tender Drive, forget steam TTS decoders, as they seem to use feedback from the motor to detect speed, for setting the chuff rate, and the Ringfield, with its gearing, is not even close!
We did try one on a Hornby Tender Drive 28xx...We now have a loco drive, DCC ready 28xx...still second hand, and so cheapish!

With a small layout like Ffrwd Locks, DCC is not really necessary, but it does make wiring a bit simpler. Also, bringing another loco up to the rear of a goods train to take off the wagons for the Ffrwd , Ironworks branch would be simple.

I have found that converting most models is quite easy.

The split chassis Mainline and early Bachmann can be more tricky, when most seem to use the chassis halves to contacts on the motor to carry current.

Grinding, drilling or other methods to remove metal to metal contact is required...

Our Class 03 was already converted to DCC, then put back as DC when it was put up for sale, so when we bought it, it was a bit simpler to fit a decoder to...not a sound decoder though, yet! 😉

There are some models that may not get sound decoders...not a problem.

Also, it is possible to use a TTS decoder without the background sound turned on.
All the spot sounds still work, whistles, etc.
A possibility when too much sound isn't wanted.
Best wishes,

Ruff...
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Bunkerbarge
I think that's a great approach Ruff, use things to your own advantage.  There is no doubt that the functionality and sound quality of a TTS decoder is nowhere near the same as a high end Zimo etc.. however you are paying around £30.00 to £40.00 as opposed to over £100.00.  If, however, you only want the bells, whistles and other bits and pieces you would be hard pressed to tell the difference.

For testing out a new loco I have a very basic Zimo decoder for no other purpose than to run the model around the layout, usually without the top on.  That cost me less than £20.00.
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Ruffnut Thorston
When we decided to go for DCC, I traveled the internet for decoders and controllers.

A lot of the decoders of various brands, including Hornby, Bachmann, TCS, Gaugemaster, and DCC concepts came in around the £10.00 mark, when Hattons had some on sale for around £11.00 each.

So we have a box of decoders, some 6 pin, 8 pin, 21pin, and some with just wires. Mainly basic, but the price was right, especially as there seems to have been a general rise in prices lately.

For controllers, we have had a basic Fleischman controller, that was nice.
It had an interesting control method.
You turned the knob one way to go forwards, then to stop it worked like a brake, as you turned it the other way, and the more you turned the knob, the quicker the loco stopped. Then you could turn the knob again to move...
But it was limited to four locos, coded 1,2,3,and 4.
Next was a Hornby Select. Limited functionality led to a Hornby E-link, which we still have, but never used except to test it, as it needed the computer to be on to use it.
We got a Lok Mouse controller, and that was ok, and led to a Fleischman issued Multimouse controller, which can be used with the Lok mouse to have two controllers.
Ok, there is a limit on how many functions can be activated, but it will do for now. The main thing is that the Multimouse can alter CVs. 😊
All the controllers came off the internet, second hand.
When we have moved to another controller, the others were sold on to someone else...
Recycling!
Best wishes,

Ruff...
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