Ruffnut Thorston

Parkside Dundas PC36 SR (Ex SECR) PMV. Even Planked Version. Plastic Kit.

This is an older issue of the Kit, going by the packaging and instructions...C 1989...

This kit makes up into the South Eastern & Chatham Railway type van, and includes optional parts to make a Southern Railway Built version (1930s, Even Planked type).

The optional parts are the Chalk Boards, and side vents. The chalk boards may have been fitted to SECR vans, as the Bluebell Railway has one in SECR colours. (But this may not be fully authentic.)

http://www.bluebellrailway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/153.html

 

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The general purpose Luggage Vans were used for the carriage of parcels, newspapers, and many other forms of general merchandise. The SECR design of 1919 became the standard for the Southern Railway, and such vans were still being built to essentially the same design in the early days of British Railways in 1951. They were rated to run in passenger trains, and were frequently used as extra luggage vans on longer distance trains.

This van was the very last to be repainted from SECR brown, to SR green, in August 1930. Of very simple design, with the metal framing exposed, and planked on the inside, they are easy to maintain. Most of the 45 SECR-built vehicles continued in departmental use on BR right into the 1970s and a couple until 1989.


Southern Railway version...

http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/mls2186.html

Romford metal disk wheels (Coach, 14mm type) and brass beraings are supplied, as are mountings for a Tri-ang Type MKIII Tension Lock Coupling.

Kit Packaging...

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Instructions

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The partially made up kit...

The roof is not glued on yet....painting and glazing to do first!

All the parts in the photos are supplied in the kit, except for the coupling hooks, which are whitemetal ones from our parts stock. Plastic hooks ARE provided though!

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Best wishes,

Ruff...
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Ruffnut Thorston
I was wondering about the colour of the window bars.

Some real ones seem to have galvanised bars. Of course, the RTR ones have white lines printed onto the glazing (see Hornby Dublo / Wrenn models...).

Parkside Dundas kit...Part 2....Couplings fitted.

NEM Couplings Fitted...using Parkside Dundas NEM mountings (PA34) on plastic card spacers.

The coupling pocket and hook are Hornby parts. (X.9289)

I am working on fitting NEM pockets on most of the Ffrwd Locks Rolling Stock...I may later fit NEM Kadees....all options open! ;)


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Ruff...
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Ruffnut Thorston

Keyser (Ks) Plastic Kit. SR CCT 4-wheel Van. This kit dates from the 1980s.

I have aquired two of these kits.

As the sides are the same for the CCT (Covered Carriage Truck) as for the PMV (Parcels and Micelaneous Van) I am thinking of modifying one set of ends to make a PMV.

The Southern Railway carried on building what was a South Eastern & Chatham Railway design, adding extra ventilators to the sides below the windows.

The Ks kit has these moulded in, as well as the Chalk Boards below each window.

The side planking is "even planked", so this wagon is most probably a pre-WW2 build, as some later builds used two widths of planking on the sides.

There are no roof ventilators provided...some CCTs it seems did not have roof vents, or at least lost them later in their lifes.

It seems that the Southern Railway called the CCTs "COVCAR", and the Luggage (PMV) vans "PLV" Passengers Luggage Van. Some were lettered "LUGGAGE" in the bottom right corner.

So far, I have made a good start on one kit.

I have opened out the rounded corners of the windows, as the real ones are squared off.

The kit provides plastic Tension Lock Couplings, and Plastic "Mansell" Coach Wheels.

I have fitted Hornby metal 14.1 MM Coach Wheels, and NEM mountings from Parkside Dundas (PA34), with Hornby NEM couplings and pockets.

I have added a floor (not provided in the kit) and fitted a brake cylinder and other parts from a Parkside Dundas PMV kit (there are two sets in th eParkside kit).

A chunk of metal has been glued to the floor as a weight.

For the age of the kit, and the simplification made to the details to bring the costs down (one box has a price of £0.99 on it!) it isn't too bad.

I also have an ex Hornby Dublo Wrenn version, and that is being detailed. It compares well with the Ks Kit!

The Dapol OO gauge model is basically a re-toled Hornby Dublo / Wrenn body, but with the doors made part of the body, so they don't open!

The Bachmann models are probably better, but there is also the Parkside Dundas kits....see other posts for The Parkside kit I have...

The packaging and parts laid out...

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The rather basic instructions...

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Prototype pictures...

1745  NO.76  SR  UTILITY VAN  CCT

http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=473

http://www.departmentals.com/photo/083431

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/srcctdepartmental/hb075975#h1f1a8108

Also some more information....including models....

https://grahammuz.com/2012/03/16/talking-stock-5-sr-luggage-parcels-and-utility-vans/


There were bogie vans, the bodies of which look just like 2 of the 4-wheel van bodies mounted on a bogie chassis....some were modified to carry elephants!

http://www.rcts.org.uk/features/carriages/content.htm?id=carriages/srguv

Best wishes,

Ruff...
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Ruffnut Thorston

Keyser (Ks) Plastic Kit. SR CCT 4-wheel Van. Part 2

The part completed kit...

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No weight fitted yet...

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Underside shewing the Vacuum Brake cylinder, etc, spares from the Parkside Dundas Kit (please see other posts on here!).

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One end....

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The two sides...

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Nem couplings fitted using Parkside Dundas NEM mountings (PA34) on plastic card spacers.

The coupling pocket and hook are Hornby parts. (X.9289)

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Ruff...
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Wrenn (Ex Hornby Dublo) SR CCT modifications...

As part of our SR PLV/PMV and CCT collection (See kit built versions elswhere on this Forum...), this Wrenn BR Blue CCT (with opening doors!) is going to be re-painted into BR "Crimson" livery...Or possibly late Southern Railway livery...

The roof vents will be getting changed....

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Going by the "Shell" type roof ventilatores, this model is based on a 1950s BR Built example. (The vents on earlier builds were of the "Torpedo" type...)

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So far, the chassis has bore the brunt of the modifications.

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The trussing has had the extra vertical braces removed, and also the V hanger on the "wrong" side, away from the vacuum cylinder.

There is to be another V hanger added alongside the Vacuum Cylinder, as in the Parkside Dundas kit built example...and possibly some brake linkage....the spare parts box is to be raided.

The supplied wheels were spoked, and I believe that they "should" be coach sized disk wheels.

The Wrenn axle hangers were the "simple" plain ones...

Hornby Dublo used some neat axle hangers that have a representation of the brake shoes, in line with the wheels.

So, the wheel hangers were replaced with brake shoe ones from the spares box, the plastic moulded brake shoes attached to the solebar and springs being cut away.

The new wheels are Wrenn Disk Wheels, so probably a tad small, but they work better in the hangers than Hornby Pin-point ones...I did try them...!

Possibly brass bearings inserted into the holes in the hangers would work with pin-point axles, but we don't have any the right size...Yet! ;)

The Wrenn "Tri-ang" MKIII type couplings were unscrewed, and the mountings cut off carefully.

Parkside Dundas NEM mountings were modified by carefully trimming off the "upstand" so that the base fitted directly onto the bosses for the PECO type Hornby Dublo Couplings. This made the mountings just about the correct hight, matched to another NEM fitted wagon...

Hornby Nem Pockets and Narrow Tension Lock Couplings have been fitted.

The "scale" type coupling hooks are some of the last of the batch of white metal hooks from the spares boxes...

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The opening doors will enable some posed pictures of loading and unloading...

It came missing one door, so has had a spare door fitted, a brown one!

The uneven planking on the body would make it an early BR example, as some later builds used Plywood sides. The uneven planking dates from the War years...

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Ruff...
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The "finished" models...

 

Ks Plastic Kit SR CCT. (Roof Vents still needed...) SR Olive \Green "Southern Railway" and number transfers from the Ks Kit. Added BR Lettering. from HMRS (PC Models) BR Sheet.

 

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Parkside Kit SR PLV SR Malachite Green "Southern " lettering and number transfers from the. HMRS (PC Models) SR Sheet.

 

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WRENN CCT  Modified. BR "Crimson" livery. BR Lettering.from HMRS (PC Models) BR Sheet.

 

 

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Hornby Van C (Untouched save for NEM Kadee Couplings added...) and Wrenn CCT.

 

 

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Best wishes,

Ruff...
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Bunkerbarge
Wow, you've certainly been making the most of your time at home!  Great looking individual wagons.  I've got a couple of standard Hornby CCT vans for LNER use, which will be weathered up as I think they make for an interesting and a bit different train.  Yours are quite unique though and look superb and well worth the effort.  

I've never even heard of Keyser kits!
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Ruffnut Thorston
Thanks...

Actually, these posts were transcribed from elsewhere, originally posted some time ago...partly as a reply to Andrew Fryer's post about his plan to build a Parkside SECR luggage van.

Keyser kits are also known as K's kits...

Mostly known for white metal kits...

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