Panzersgt71
Hello

I'm new to the forum and only been tinkering with DCC model railway for about a year.
I'm in the progress of dismantling the old loft layout to build a new permanent 7x4m layout in an annex on the side of the house. 
My old layout was about half the size and ran very nicely on a bus using a Hornby elite as a controller. Now that I'm more confident with bus wries droppers etc I'm looking to start using some DCC Concept products. However, having looked at the stuff on offer it seems you need a degree in electronics to start out.
Due to cost, I'm not motorizing any of my points as there will be about 50 . of them.
All I'm after is a power supply may be two boosters so as I can set up three power districts, (mainline 4 tracks and a brach line-marshaling yard-depot) and a controller.
Can someone point me in the right direction to save me keep ploughing through the advice sheets

Many thanks Steve
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RichardBrighton
Hi Steve :-) 

You could start with a PowerCab DCC Starter System these are *very* affordable and available from a number of dealers nationwide.

For the power districts, you could use our DCC System Upgrade Bundle which is available here: https://www.dccconcepts.com/product/alpha-system-upgrade-bundle-limited-time-promotion/

This would give you 5 Amps for each district - which should be more than sufficient. 

Electrical connections are very straightforward - but please do give us a call on 01729 821080 if you want any detailed advice - we are more than happy to help.

Richard B
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Briperran




For the power districts, you could use our DCC System Upgrade Bundle which is available here: https://www.dccconcepts.com/product/alpha-system-upgrade-bundle-limited-time-promotion/

This would give you 5 Amps for each district - which should be more than sufficient. 


Richard B


I looked at your upgrade i note it says compatable with most DCC systems does that include the ESU Ecos using the upgrade as a district booster with the Ecos?  The ECos 4 amp 1 district the DCC concepts 5 amp for the other district?

Brian
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AHJAY
Yes, there are many out there using this gear with ECoS.

regards, Ahjay
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RichardBrighton
Hi Brian

You could use Alpha Power and Box as a booster with no issue - however if you want to create a separate power district, then you would come across a problem which is caused by EcoS using an "above ground" earth.

So - two solutions...

Option 1 - Power *both* the EcoS and the Alpha Box with the Alpha Power. Route your main bus from the EcoS around your primary district, then into Alpha Box - from there onto your second district. 
Power District 1 = EcoS -> Track & Alpha Box
Alpha Power -------^v
Power District 2 = Box --> Track
KIT REQUIRED = 1x Alpha System Upgrade Bundle (DCD-PWRAUX)

Option 2 - Replace the EcoS Power Supply with Alpha Power. This will provide 2x 5A Power Districts:
Power District 1 = Alpha Power -> EcoS -> Track & Alpha Box
Power District 2 = Alpha Power -> Alpha Box -> Track
KIT REQUIRED = 1x Alpha System Upgrade Bundle (DCD-PWRAUX) & 1x Alpha Power (DCD-PWR.UK) (replace ".UK" with .EU, .US or .AU as applicable).

Option 2 would provide the best power availability to the layout - option 1 would mean only 1 mains socket and a lower cost.

I hope this helps...

Richard B
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Briperran
Thankyou Richard

I actually dont use the Ecos supplied power supply  i use a Maplins Switched mode DC power supply model n93cx  0-5amp .

Not sure about an Ecos Earth connection was not aware there was an earth connection on the Ecos its a two wire from transformer connection.

My transformer power supply  can provide Negative ground – black (-) negative terminal is shorted with green GND terminal.Positive ground – red (+) positive terminal is shorted with green GND terminal.Floating ground – green terminal is not shorted with any of the output terminals.

But i certainly dont use that at present.

With this power supply i have is that the same as the dcc concepts one?

Brian
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RichardBrighton
Hi Brian,

Alpha Power is a 2-wire power supply, + and - 18V DC at 5A. 

Do you need more than 5A total for your layout or do you need to create 2x Power Districts with 5A available to each?

Cheers
Richard.
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Briperran
Hi Richard

The plan would be to have 2 x  5amp power districts   but i realise The Ecos controller itself will only handle 4 amp although i have a 5 amp power supply.
I know if i do not create districts when the layout is fully operational i may well be close to the amperage limit  so that is the reasoning for the 2 districts.
If you know of an easier way to increase overall layout amperage withought districts i will look at that.

Brian
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Panzersgt71
thanks Richard once I have all my new track down and ive studied the manuals for the items you mentioned, with a copy of electronics for dummies nearby, I may give you a shout. Thanks. 
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RichardBrighton
 
Briperran wrote:

The plan would be to have 2 x  5amp power districts   but i realise The Ecos controller itself will only handle 4 amp although i have a 5 amp power supply.
I know if i do not create districts when the layout is fully operational i may well be close to the amperage limit  so that is the reasoning for the 2 districts.
If you know of an easier way to increase overall layout amperage withought districts i will look at that.

Brian


I think the best would be for Option 2 but if you want to discuss it further give us a call in the morning here in Settle and we can bash out the requirements. 

Whatever method you choose, it is important that the power supply for each district are the same type and rating so that there are no issues. 

Richard
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Panzersgt71
Can I just say 
Gave you a bell can't recall who I spoke to, think it was the chap on the youtube videos. fantastic advice. Took the time to go through everything. great customer service top class. cheers, now just got to install all my new kit, prepare yourself for some new phone call.  cheers for the help
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